Who will be the duck?

predict who will join the 3 lower teams and be eliminated in Q1, i call that driver the duck

there will be one driver from the established teams, i think its going to be alguersuari

Yea...Jaime

or maybe Petrov

Petrov.

i got it right

Torro Rosso seemed to be faster than Redbull at one time during testing. That should teach us not to read too much into testing times the next time .

Schumacat wrote:Torro Rosso seemed to be faster than Redbull at one time during testing. That should teach us not to read too much into testing times the next time .

we say this every year

but i never even considered that STR would be quicker then RBR

Lol, same thing. Red Bull were not exactly impressive during testing or FP, then Vettle pulls an impressive rabbit out of his beanie....

Well, Sauber and STR obviously have been showboating in testing.

I was surprised Jaime went out after Q1...

Looks like that STR ain't very quick afterall.

When were they quick?

I mean Jaime was always in the top 8 during testing . . . and Buemi too.

Jaime needs to improve....he has no excuse this year

lightmas wrote:Jaime needs to improve....he has no excuse this year

Yeah, anyway he said the car was much better in the test and he made an error. Maybe the STR are better with high loads as they did not test with low load conditions...

Well, to be fair to Jaime, he did make a mistake and it cost him a heap of time...

emziibbyx wrote:Well, to be fair to Jaime, he did make a mistake and it cost him a heap of time...

so what?
he messed up, he was eliminated in Q1.

STR's main problems are the drivers, IMO. They have little experience and are nothing special anyways. Buemi seemed promising a few times last year, though.

You are not being fair with this new driver. Jaime started last year without any test and not knowing that F1 car before. He was put on the car and said to try to learn as much as possible and try to finish the races. He did a really good job considering these premises. This year he started the season doing all the tests allowed, but he found a totally different car at Bahrein with no grip at all. Yes, he made an error, but he completed the race in lead lap and did it better than Buemi, Hulk, Petrov, Senna, Kobayashi, De la Rosa, the Virgins, the Lotus, etc... I don't know if he will be a really great driver, but he is just starting. Just give him a chance. To say the problem of STR is the drivers is not fair.

KoKiNa wrote:You are not being fair with this new driver. Jaime started last year without any test and not knowing that F1 car before. He was put on the car and said to try to learn as much as possible and try to finish the races. He did a really good job considering these premises. This year he started the season doing all the tests allowed, but he found a totally different car at Bahrein with no grip at all. Yes, he made an error, but he completed the race in lead lap and did it better than Buemi, Hulk, Petrov, Senna, Kobayashi, De la Rosa, the Virgins, the Lotus, etc... I don't know if he will be a really great driver, but he is just starting. Just give him a chance. To say the problem of STR is the drivers is not fair.

those drivers you listed broke down......thats not beating them really...not in a performance sense.

Jaime has to beat Buemi on merit on some occasions this year....he is no longere in his first year...

It's the time for Alguersuari to show his true pace this season, if not, he's out.

lightmas wrote:

KoKiNa wrote:You are not being fair with this new driver. Jaime started last year without any test and not knowing that F1 car before. He was put on the car and said to try to learn as much as possible and try to finish the races. He did a really good job considering these premises. This year he started the season doing all the tests allowed, but he found a totally different car at Bahrein with no grip at all. Yes, he made an error, but he completed the race in lead lap and did it better than Buemi, Hulk, Petrov, Senna, Kobayashi, De la Rosa, the Virgins, the Lotus, etc... I don't know if he will be a really great driver, but he is just starting. Just give him a chance. To say the problem of STR is the drivers is not fair.

those drivers you listed broke down......thats not beating them really...not in a performance sense.

Jaime has to beat Buemi on merit on some occasions this year....he is no longere in his first year...

As far as I know Hulk did not broke (drive mistake) and Buemi was behind him before breaking the car. Kova also didn't broke, ok ok it's a slow Lotus, but Jaime finished the race without mistakes. Let him have a chance...

I said the drivers are the problem because they aren't

a) experienced enough to develop the car
b) are NOT natural talents like Kimi, Fernando or Lewis is.

It isn't a problem if there's an experienced driver paired with a rookie or a guy with relatively no experience, but having two of them is shooting yourself in the foot. Who will they learn from? Each other?

I was not dissing Jaime, I just said it's a problem for STR to have 2 inexperienced drivers.

KoKiNa wrote:

lightmas wrote:

KoKiNa wrote:You are not being fair with this new driver. Jaime started last year without any test and not knowing that F1 car before. He was put on the car and said to try to learn as much as possible and try to finish the races. He did a really good job considering these premises. This year he started the season doing all the tests allowed, but he found a totally different car at Bahrein with no grip at all. Yes, he made an error, but he completed the race in lead lap and did it better than Buemi, Hulk, Petrov, Senna, Kobayashi, De la Rosa, the Virgins, the Lotus, etc... I don't know if he will be a really great driver, but he is just starting. Just give him a chance. To say the problem of STR is the drivers is not fair.

those drivers you listed broke down......thats not beating them really...not in a performance sense.

Jaime has to beat Buemi on merit on some occasions this year....he is no longere in his first year...

As far as I know Hulk did not broke (drive mistake) and Buemi was behind him before breaking the car. Kova also didn't broke, ok ok it's a slow Lotus, but Jaime finished the race without mistakes. Let him have a chance...

nico was in his first race..

Buemi was right behind Jaime when he broke down..here is a quote from Seb....

"I got stuck behind Jaime and was unable to pass him and with three laps to go, the car just stopped. Tough love!"

and..its not all about finishing without mistakes, ask Nick Heidfield.

But in general Sebs pace is better, and i dont expect that to change.....

guesswho's back wrote:I said the drivers are the problem because they aren't

a) experienced enough to develop the car
b) are NOT natural talents like Kimi, Fernando or Lewis is.

It isn't a problem if there's an experienced driver paired with a rookie or a guy with relatively no experience, but having two of them is shooting yourself in the foot. Who will they learn from? Each other?

I was not dissing Jaime, I just said it's a problem for STR to have 2 inexperienced drivers.

STR do not intend to be world champions, for sure... they are only there to give a chance to young drivers to learn. No natural talent drivers will drive for STR, but in these little teams started great drivers as Vettel, Massa, Alonso, Senna, etc...

lightmas wrote:

KoKiNa wrote:

lightmas wrote:

KoKiNa wrote:You are not being fair with this new driver. Jaime started last year without any test and not knowing that F1 car before. He was put on the car and said to try to learn as much as possible and try to finish the races. He did a really good job considering these premises. This year he started the season doing all the tests allowed, but he found a totally different car at Bahrein with no grip at all. Yes, he made an error, but he completed the race in lead lap and did it better than Buemi, Hulk, Petrov, Senna, Kobayashi, De la Rosa, the Virgins, the Lotus, etc... I don't know if he will be a really great driver, but he is just starting. Just give him a chance. To say the problem of STR is the drivers is not fair.

those drivers you listed broke down......thats not beating them really...not in a performance sense.

Jaime has to beat Buemi on merit on some occasions this year....he is no longere in his first year...

As far as I know Hulk did not broke (drive mistake) and Buemi was behind him before breaking the car. Kova also didn't broke, ok ok it's a slow Lotus, but Jaime finished the race without mistakes. Let him have a chance...

nico was in his first race..

Buemi was right behind Jaime when he broke down..here is a quote from Seb....

"I got stuck behind Jaime and was unable to pass him and with three laps to go, the car just stopped. Tough love!"

and..its not all about finishing without mistakes, ask Nick Heidfield.

But in general Sebs pace is better, and i dont expect that to change.....

Well... Nico have much more kms in F1 as test driver than Jaime have and if last year can be considered a test for Jaime it is also his first race.

The fact is Jaime finished the race and Seb didn't. Last year in some occasions was inversed and now you consider Seb a much better driver than Jaime, that's not fair.

I can be wrong of course, but I really expect Jaime will beat Seb in the end... let's see.

Yep..lets see

Why the duck by the way? Why not the outsider or something